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Post 7: August, 2014 to December, 2015. Posted May 30, 2018

First some information to help explain up coming conversations between M/J, Moma and me:

On January 27th, 1998, about 2 years after Jeremy and I had begun our automatic writing communication, I asked him if he knew when I should, or would, die.  He immediately wrote May 22, 2022.   I was a little disappointed.  I actually wanted it to be sooner.  Like probably all parents grieving the loss of a child, I frequently bordered on suicidal wanting to be with my son.  However, a couple of days later I started adding up dates.  I had been born at 4:00 pm on November 21st, 1944.  On May 22nd, 2022 at 4:00 am I would have been around the sun in this physical body exactly 77 and 1/2 times and facing exactly opposite from where my body detached from my mother’s.  What perfect timing !  I did not include this information in my book, From Jeremy With Love, because I feared that, if I did not die as predicted, some would consider it  “proof” that everything I’ve experienced and written about is a lie.   I know that that date for my disincar may be totally wrong.  I consider it more likely only an “auspicious” date but have decided to live my life to be prepared to die then anyway.  If I live longer, I’ll consider it free time and just enjoy it as much as an old man can!

Second factor:  On June 22, 2010 I underwent six vessel coronary bypass.  The vasculature through the rest of my body seems to be just fine.  Only my coronaries decided to clog up.  My cardiology friends and I agree that after six vessel bypass there is very little to be done should they clog again and  May, 2022 will be about 12 years post surgery which is a pretty good expectancy.

The third factor:  In 1994 I made a pilgrimage through India with Sadguru Sant Keshavadas and about 50 American devotees.  As part of the experience we were all baptized by Santji in the clear cold water of the Ganges as it was coming out of the mountains into the foothills just outside of Uttarkashi (love Uttarkashi!)   To each of us Santji gave a bit of personal benediction.  To me he said, “You will have one more life after this and you will live it as a saint.”  I, always the skeptic, caught a chance to speak with Sant Keshavadas alone that evening and asked if he told everyone  the same thing or something similar.  He answered that he had no idea what he told anyone—that the words just came out only for us and he didn’t remember them.  I don’t know if that was only a good story from an itinerant guru but I decided that no one would be hurt if I considered his prediction a possibility.  At first I thought being a saint to be a honor.  Later I realized that it’s not.  It is essentially agreeing to live your life totally for others and has a good chance to not be much fun!

So these are my personal factors that came into play in my interactions with Moma and M/J as we considered their reincarnation plans over the next year.

 

In August, 2014, when M/J and Moma told me they both wanted to reincarnate, I explained my desire to die and then reincar close behind them,  maybe to be a little brother or friend.  I told them about the possible “saint thing” and that I felt I would need a support group.  They both indicated that they were willing to help me if needed.  We ended that writing with them planning to speak with the PTB.  I requested that I be advised where they might reincar so, hopefully, I could join them.   I have no idea if it is possible or acceptable to request a particular reincar but saw no reason to not request.

On August 19th. M/J and Moma had not spoken with the PTB so I agreed to speak for them.  I questioned if they (M/J and Moma) would consider putting off reincar for 2 years to bring them closer to my disincar.   M/J was okay with that but when we wrote on the 21st., after they had thought and discussed, they decided that they wanted to reincar “now.”  I noted on September 11th. that I had spoken/prayed to the PTB requesting a good reincar for M/J and Moma.  I think they had made contact also.

On September 22nd. M/J was here, Moma not here.  I understood she was again upset with M/J.  From then until the end of the year there was little writing of substance.   We continued to meet twice most weeks, writing small talk…”How are you?”  “Okay.”  “Is there any other beings here with us?”  “No.”,  etc…, while waiting for a response from the PTB.  In mid December, 2014, M/J again asked me to speak to the PTB.   I told him I would but “no guarantees.”   On the 23rd. M/J wrote that he recognized the possibility that he and Moma may continue disincar until I joined them in 2022.  On the 30th.  he wrote that (in our group) I am a leader, he is just behind me and many others are following.  I don’t know if there is any truth in that or if he was only trying understand his Moma’s situation and place me in a position of responsibility.

In early February, 2015, M/J and Moma finally met with the PTB.  They came back understanding that it may be another 10 years before they would reincar.  Then on February 17th. M/J wrote that the PTB said that I would die May 22, 2016.  He had no idea why.   I told M/J, fine, I’m ready and  I would start getting my affairs together.  He also understood that he, Moma and I should remain disincar for another 10 years.  I speculated that perhaps we would be receiving some training from the PTB during that time or that, maybe, 10 years later would be a more auspicious time to reincar.  In writings over the next couple of months M/J suggested that multiple beings were to come together in the next 10 years, there was to be a war and battles, etc., etc.  It began to sound like a sci-fi book of Revelations.  I was beginning to wonder if we were in some fantasy realm.

Then on April 23, 2015, M/J wrote that the PTB were now saying that I was to disincar on May 22, 2015! less then a month away.  And, I was leaving on a trip to England and Ireland with friends in the middle of that month…. All very confusing.  On May 12th. I found that Moma had not been aware of my impending disincar and M/J became a bit unsure.  I decided to assume that May 22, 2015 might be a nice day for my disincar but it also may require my acceptance rather then be already decided.  On May 14th, I found that the PTB were not insistent that I leave my body on the 22nd but that M/J wanted me to.  I explained to him that, if I’m not needed disincar, he and I may do better work if we’re on both sides, incar and disincar.  I also questioned to myself if the being I had been writing with as M/J during this time actually was M/J.

We passed the of May 22nd. “crisis” date without incident!   I don’t expect I’ll ever know what was going on with M/J during those first months of 2015.  Had he misunderstood some communication with the PTB?  Was he being disruptive because of immaturity or jealousy?  Did he truly want me to join him and Moma in the disincar part of out universe?   Was the story of my being a leader of some group only a ruse to get gain some favor?  Interestingly, none of these scenarios fit the Jeremy I had known.  But they might have fit the Michael he had been in his last life.

 

Another aside:   On February 26th, 2015 I noted that I had often thought what my arm and hand were about to write just a split second before M/J or Moma wrote it.  It was like their words registered in my mind before writing.  This, of course, made me question if possibly I was creating everything in “our” interactions.  I tried to figure out  ways to test if I was interacting with other beings or deluding myself…. Like a Turing test for artificial intelligence.  However, I did not find questions that I could not have been creating the answers to since I was the creator and presenter of the question.  I did ask M/J about this.  He wrote that sometimes a part of our thoughts are disincarnate beings talking to us.   So, perhaps I need to learn to pay closer attention to my thoughts?  Perhaps consciousnesses do communicate telepatically?  And perhaps I’m having auditory hallucinations?  I may never know but I will consider any possibility.  This is one of the facets in this experience where belief and faith provided the only acceptable resolution.   ( A couple of years later, on June 16, 2017, I asked M/J to write something I would not expect.  He immediately wrote “I am Jeremy.”  This was a real surprise to me since he had no memory of being Jeremy and had resisted being called Jeremy.)

 

On May 28th Moma again was gone after a conflict with M/J.  On June 2nd.  they were both here but not together.  She wrote that she was okay but did not want to reunite with M/J.  He complained that they had “no friends in common.”  On June 4th M/J acknowledged that Moma may have some valid points.  I advised him to tell her that and to apologize for not accepting it earlier.  I was sorta forced into doing couples counseling!    On June 8th.  M/J and Moma were back together.  I suspected that their conflict may have had to do with M/J’s push for me to disincar the previous May so I spoke to the PTB, accepting full responsibility for my interpretation of M/J’s reports, and asking that we be allowed to continue to write together.   On July 2nd.  Moma wrote that she still expected me to disincar in 2016 as per the earlier prediction.

On July 20, 2015 M/J cryptically asked, “To whom do I owe gratitude?”  This would have been a typical teenage Jeremy question to be followed by an in depth discussion.   I admit that, in answering, I got into my own personal beliefs and philosophy.  I plan to discuss this question in detail in Summary Posts.

On July 28th, M/J wrote that he had been with other friends.  I questioned what they talked about.  Reply was “Olympic gods.” (??)  Eh,  could be!

By September Moma and M/J seem to have made up.  On the 3rd they were both “Okay” and had been “worshiping” together.   Same was reported on 8th.  Also on the 8th they acknowledged that homosexual relationships and worship occurred among disincars and (seemed to be) okay.

On September 15th M/J and Moma reported that the PTB agreed for them to reincar but that no time frame was given.  But by the 29th the PTB had offered Moma a reincar “now.”  No details were given re stage of development of the new body or location.  I could only advise Moma to “do whatever she wants.”  On October 6th I noted that there had been no further word from the PTB but we were still expecting Moma to reincar.  M/J was worried about being alone.

On October 9th, 2015 I returned to my meditation room to write after visiting with friends at my neighborhood bar.  I was a bit drunk, depressed and vulnerable.  I too was dealing with our impending loss of Moma.    M/J was here.  I felt such love and caring from him that I had not felt since he was Jeremy child.  A wonderful experience I needed at that time.

On October 20th Moma was with her new body.  M/J was here and feeling lonely.  I sent him love as best I could.

On November 3rd. Moma was back with us.  We had a long discussion re her new body, determining that all was developing well with no problems.  I questioned if she might be the child of some friends of mine that was to be born in 3 to 5 months.  I told Moma that they are a great couple and will be wonderful parents.  We left that writing considering this a real possibility.   On November 10th. and again on the 17th. Moma wrote that she thinks that my friends are to be her new parents.

On December 1st, 2015 Moma was not here.  M/J wrote that she was with her new body and was to be born about January 21, 2016.  He was sad and confused over Moma’s reincar.  He asked, “What will I do?”  I told him a few options:  Reincar himself, stay here with me, look for other compatible disincar beings.  This seemed to calm him but I expeceted, even though he and Moma frequently did not get along, her loss would be difficult for him.

The 17th. of November, 2015 was the last time Moma and I wrote together.  She had been writing with me since Jeremy brought her to my meditation room in December of 1999—16 years.  I know I was a burden for her.  Though sometimes petulant and disgruntled, she stayed with me for my sake.   I will always be grateful.  I hope and pray I may lovingly repay her in our future.

Expect next post in about 10 days.

 

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